# WCC Game 7: @ St. Mary's

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**Category:** Game Preview/Recap\
**Created:** [January 20, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577 "2023-01-20T21:29:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BballFemme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@BballFemme](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BballFemme)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/24 "2023-01-22T02:15:59Z")

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LOL - I WISH Cam had his size! The damage he would do with that size!

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**Author:** ![BroncoBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@BroncoBob](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BroncoBob)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/25 "2023-01-22T02:16:58Z")

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Just pointing out that every other game has either been neutral, home, or basically an empty arena like Pepperdine/Pacific.

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**Author:** ![92bronc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/898d66/32.png) [@92bronc](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/92bronc)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/26 "2023-01-22T02:17:19Z")

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Not a good night for Bediako so far, would rather see Braun and Tongue and push pace as much as possible, beat Saxon down the floor for quick looks.

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**Author:** ![BroncoBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@BroncoBob](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BroncoBob)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/27 "2023-01-22T02:24:02Z")

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Two games in a row where the first 5 minutes of the second half have been brutal. Hopefully we can hit our stride in the last ten minutes and make it somewhat interesting. Need to at least feel like we could beat them on a neutral court in Vegas.

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**Author:** ![BroncoBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@BroncoBob](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BroncoBob)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/29 "2023-01-22T02:38:36Z")

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Shooting 53 percent from 3 yet down 26. wow.

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**Author:** ![BroncoBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@BroncoBob](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BroncoBob)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/32 "2023-01-22T02:58:05Z")

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6 total team assists tonight. That has to be a record!

As Knapper gets a little bigger and stronger, he is going to be a good Point Guard for us someday.

BYU down 12 late at USF.

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**Author:** ![BballFemme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@BballFemme](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BballFemme)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/33 "2023-01-22T03:00:26Z")

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Not gonna lie - LOVED Cams dish to Tilly under the basket!

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**Author:** ![BroncoBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@BroncoBob](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BroncoBob)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/34 "2023-01-22T05:03:29Z")

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[https://barttorvik.com/box.php?muid=Santa+ClaraSaint+Mary%27s1-21&year=2023](https://barttorvik.com/box.php?muid=Santa+ClaraSaint+Mary%27s1-21&year=2023)

Advanced Stats Box Score from the game tonight.

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**Author:** ![92bronc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/898d66/32.png) [@92bronc](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/92bronc)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/35 "2023-01-22T17:39:55Z")

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First the positive:

- Stewart tried to keep us in the game with a solid shooting night, our high scorer at 17pts.
- Kudos to some of the 2nd unit guys (Tilly, Tongue, Knapper and Akametu) who at least brought some energy in the last 5-8mins of the game…the game was decided by that but at least we brought some effort and didn’t go out with a whimper.
- We needed to go at least 1 - 1 on the week and we did that. And strategically, beating BYU is/was more critical in our competition for 3rd place.

The not so positive…could go on and on but just a few:

- Very rough night for our centers…Bediako/Holt/Tilly were thoroughly dominated by Saxen and Wessels. Bediako’s line: 22 mins, 0 pts, 1 reb, just 1 shot taken, 0-2 from the free throw line. Tilly did have some good minutes towards the end but the game was decided by then.

- Again, wish we would have had Stewart match up on Mahaney or at least alternate Podz and Stewart on him. Stewart is quicker and more of a pest. Mahaney’s offense was the difference in the 1st half.

- _ **Rant Warning** _ - We continue to use Switching as our primary (almost sole) ball screen defensive coverage. Opposing teams are frequently initiating offense with their center setting a ball screen for their guards as SMC did last night. The result? Bediako, Holt and Tilly trying to guard Mahaney or Johnson on the perimeter while Stewart/Podz/Knapper try to wrestle with Saxen/Wessels in the post. Why in the world would we continue to employ a defense that led to that result??? There are 6 or 7 different ways to defend ball screens and pick-n-roll, Switching is just one of them. IMO, we need to vary our coverages and chose the coverage that makes sense given the matchups and not put our players in situations of tremendous mismatches. As example, at the other end of the floor, SMC’s defense rarely switched on our ball screens…they typically Hedged, preserving they’re preferred matchups…big on big, guard on guard. Rant over.

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**Author:** ![buckets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@buckets](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/buckets)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/36 "2023-01-22T19:16:57Z")

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I was in a sports bar yesterday, and every TV was on the NFL game. I asked the bar manager to put the SCU-SMC game on, he put it on a TV that was a bit out of the way, enough for me to see the score and to see some action, but not enough for me to identify players or specifics… Can some explain to me the adjustments Bennett made after the first media timeout? We were up 7-4 I believe, and then after that, it seemed like something substantively changed.

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**Author:** ![BroncoPen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@BroncoPen](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BroncoPen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/37 "2023-01-22T20:58:17Z")

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Very much agree with the ball screen defense comments. We don’t seem to change our coverage really ever. Especially in a game like last night where Mahaney was killing us - why not blitz those screens and get it out of his hands, or hedge and let the guard get back on him.  
\*I don’t pretend like I know more than the coaches and maybe there are subtle adjustments that we just don’t see, but I do get confused/frustrated with our ball screen defense a bit

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**Author:** ![BuckyBronco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BuckyBronco](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BuckyBronco)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/38 "2023-01-22T21:10:39Z")

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To answer your question:  
Herbs not that good a coach especially for the $10+ mil we’ve paid him over the last 7 yrs. Problem is Renee will never let him go and he’ll never leave…

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**Author:** ![92bronc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/898d66/32.png) [@92bronc](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/92bronc)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/39 "2023-01-22T23:29:50Z")

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Thanks 'Pen, glad I’m not the only one who sees it.

Related, I did notice a possession in the 1st half and a few possessions the middle of the 2nd half, when the game had gotten away from us, where we may done something on ball screens besides switch. Hard to describe or say what it was as it was poorly executed, ended up with a defender in no mans land and an SMC player running free and they got some wide open looks.  
Not sure if it was an intentional adjustment that was poorly executed or if it was miscommunication with guys maybe getting frustrated and going off-script.

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**Author:** ![LetsGoBroncos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LetsGoBroncos](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/LetsGoBroncos)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/40 "2023-01-23T03:29:37Z")

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Tough loss was made worse by Monotone Mike as the tv “color” analyst. He may be better suited to reading off daily Covid statistics.

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**Author:** ![PattyMac](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.wakeupswig.com/pattymac/32/15_2.png) [@PattyMac](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/PattyMac)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/41 "2023-01-23T03:49:16Z")

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Painful game. Those Gaels are good. Statistically, the game didn’t look that far off until you check out points off turnovers in which SMC had a 20-point advantage. The Gaels made Santa Clara pay for every mistake, and the Broncos rarely did the same.

Really bright spots for Tilly and Tongue. Bad night for Jaden and unspectacular one from Podz.

Realistically, though, SMC is a top-25 team playing at home. I don’t mean to cut short anyone’s grief cycle, but Santa Clara came out of this week in an even stronger position for third place. The computers stayed about the same. Santa Clara is still a likely-NIT team for the second year in a row. But basically no hope for an at-large anymore unless they beat everyone by 20 going forward and take one in Spokane.

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**Author:** ![LetsGoBroncos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LetsGoBroncos](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/LetsGoBroncos)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/43 "2023-01-23T05:52:01Z")

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If Bediako continues to play like he doesn’t even want to be out there, the door is wide open for the firm of Tilly & Tounge.

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**Author:** ![Sedulous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sedulous](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/Sedulous)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/44 "2023-01-23T05:52:16Z")

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I would have liked Carlos to hound the point guard… Carlos had no steals because he was not in the action enough. However, I am just a noontimer and admit I know nothing about strategy. I do know that when someone is hot we switch and shut them down. My goal was always to have the other team have to switch on me. Small pleasures on the court.

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**Author:** ![BuckyBronco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BuckyBronco](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/BuckyBronco)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/45 "2023-01-23T06:12:28Z")

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Or take WCC conference tournament

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**Author:** ![LetsGoBroncos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LetsGoBroncos](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/LetsGoBroncos)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/46 "2023-01-26T18:38:21Z")

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If SMC wins the conference, I think you could make the case for Aidan Mahaney as WCC Newcomer (over Podz), MVP (over Timme) and Freshman (over anyone) of the year. Not sure if they can give all those awards to one guy, but it wouldn’t be unjustified.

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**Author:** ![PattyMac](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.wakeupswig.com/pattymac/32/15_2.png) [@PattyMac](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/u/PattyMac)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.wakeupswig.com/t/wcc-game-7-st-marys/577/47 "2023-01-26T20:28:16Z")

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I actually disagree a little. Mahaney is unquestionably the top frosh in the conference. But he’s a bit one-dimensional for the moment. Mahaney scores with far greater efficiency than any frosh has a right to. But that’s pretty much it.

His assist rate is relatively low for his position. Almost zero contribution to rebounding (SMC rebounds so well at the other spots that it doesn’t matter). He doesn’t really steal the ball or get to the line. He does a good job, though, taking care of the ball.

He could definitely be the 3rd SMC player for the 10-man all-conference team alongside Bowen and Saxen. That would be a pretty incredible coup already for a non-Gonzaga frosh. Did Brownridge even make the first team when he got Newcomer of the Year?

But Conference POY is probably a race between Bowen, Timme, Podz, and maybe Tyrell Roberts or Cam Shelton. I’d give Podz the edge _if_ SCU finishes third and teams continue to harass Timme effectively to keep his numbers in check. Bowen could be the pick if SMC dominates the conference Gonzaga-style, but the very efficient Bowen-Saxen-Mahaney trio might make it harder for any one of them to get POY. Podz, Timme, and Shelton are the three players in the conference that really stand out the most for their multi-faceted contributions to their respective teams.

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