Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.
You know nothing about his career, and at this point that can only be because you choose to remain ignorant. Or you just ignore it because it doesn’t suit you.
Do you know how much older Sendek is than Tinkle? 3 years. That’s it. And you think this 3 years makes all the difference? Nonsense. That’s just what you want to think.
You simply don’t know what you’re talking about. In 5 years, one would think you would have taken the time to learn about the coach you so revile, and his career.
I could go through it (again), but at this point you either know or you don’t want. If there is someone here that is new, maybe they have an excuse. You don’t.
You just want to complain about the coach you irrationally hate.
The only part of Herb’s career that matters to us is his 5 years at SCU. Prior to that, who cares?
Point is he’s not capable of change/adjustment… doesn’t matter what age you are as Tinkle has shown. Age has nothing to do with it, it’s that Herb’s idea and understanding of basketball is antiquated.
People who care about having a full view of someone before making assumptions might care. His entire career argues against what you’re saying. And he has made a lot of adjustments (many of them out of necessity, which is how a lot of changes get made in any environment). You just haven’t noticed them. But then you think Vrankic was a guard so why am I even bothering?
You would have been screaming for Tinkle’s head in his 3rd year (and burst a blood vessel by the 4th) and not let up until 2 weeks ago.
Sendek has a better record at SCU than Tinkle does at Oregon State, both overall and in conference.
Curiously recency-biased choice of coaching idols.
Just used to illustrate the point that if you are a mid-major coach and don’t know how to adjust (Sendek) you can pretty much book your vacation every March while the good teams are still playing.
Fact remains the person you’re holding up as a superior coach has a worse record. And had a better record in the Pac-12 at a similarly underbuilt program when he took over. And had a better record in the mid major ranks.
But Tinkle has had a better last 3 weeks, and so you bring him up. Typically myopic from someone that doesn’t think Sendek ever changes (literally the most wrong thing anyone has ever said about him).
The point is that if you say someone is an “x” coach (man, zone, swing, t-game, whatever) but if you look back in their history and they’ve been a “y”, “z”, “a”, “b” coach…then they aren’t really any of those, they just did what was made the most sense for their teams.
Coach K was and probably fairly could still be called a “man” coach. For about his first 40 years as a head coach, his teams played exclusively man-to-man defense. Until he had an otherwise good team that couldn’t. Jim Boeheim is a “zone” coach – his teams have pretty much only ever played zone defense for the last I don’t know how many years. Bo Ryan was a “swing” coach. Bob Knight was a “t-game” coach. But most coaches aren’t just one thing in terms of tactics, even if they are one things in terms of overarching strategy and principles (like Bob Huggins and general aggression, Tom Izzo and physical defense and rebounding, Matt Painter and game control)
But a coach that uses one tactic for 4-5 years, then another, then another…is just adjusting to the talent on hand. And that’s what Sendek has done throughout his career. For 4 years he had Vrankic as one of his best 5 players. So at that point you’re playing 2 forwards, pretty much no getting around that. Will that change if Vrankic doesn’t come back? Depends on who the best players are, and if you can defensive rebound well enough with only 1 pure forward.
Precisely my point. Sendek hasn’t coached in a manner that accentuates his players talents while at SCU, let alone in a manner that exposes the weakest points of an opponent.
Creative, innovative, strategic… not words to associate with Sendek.
Howard,BB this is a nice platform, but it’s beginning to look like a litter box. You will never convince each other to accept the other’s viewpoint. Give it a rest …
Just started a thread for discussion of coaching and program direction before you posted this (but finished it after, have had to leave and come back to it a few times). Hopefully this helps keep other threads clear of people sniping at the coach who is going to be the coach next year.
The best and indeed only defense I have is the report button. But it takes someone willing to take action for that to matter.
E. Mobley is going to be more wealthy than Drew Timmie, but Timmie just owns him in the post. Looks like a grizzled veteran going up against a young all-star and just teaching him a lesson over and over.
He definitely won’t. Do you think literally every player that ever steps outside the 3 point line is or should be a guard?
Enfield screwed up by extending the zone too far. Should be packing it in against everyone except Kispert and making them shoot over a hand. I’ve already turned it off but it was just ridiculous. Was like a beer league zone with all the holes they left.
Timme looks great. You can’t stay close with Gonzaga unless you have a PG who can get dribble penetration and attack the rim. Eaddy has some shake going East/West but he has very little North/South ability against this type of defense. No chance of Timme picking up a cheap foul when the USC guards just float on the perimeter. We can debate how “up” Gonzaga was for our game against them, but our relative success against them is because Carlyle was able to turn the corner on their guards and create some passing lanes and drives to the basket. Oklahoma could barely get the ball up the court against Gonzaga. With the exception of BYU’s hot shooting half, we played Gonzaga as well as anybody in the last ten games.
And they did it largely how I said. Just not with a zone, technically. But with a man that acts a lot like a zone. Which is how Gonzaga is playing as well in the halfcourt.
2 of USC’s 3 assistants are on staff primarily for recruiting purposes (1 of them exclusively for recruiting purposes, namely 2 recruits in particular) and it shows. How do you only end up with a 6 seed with two 6-10+ guys that were McDonald’s All Americans? This is how.
This is a great point. I knew Oklahoma would have problems bc of Reaves having this problem, but I didn’t think Eaddy would be so bad as to start two Drew Timme-led fast breaks in the first minute. I thought USC would be smart enough to not take chances and play the Mobleys in either high-low or cross-screen or some way to make Timme have to account for one and have a mismatch with the other (and forcing their other guards to make contested jumpers on the other end). But this was just a mess.
And their defense was much worse than the offense. Just really poor preparation. It’s a shame you couldn’t give Oklahoma’s coach this game rather than the one with his team lol.
They haven’t changed a bit from December. Difference of course being we had two low-twitch athletes for forwards going against McDs All-Americans. And we hadn’t been able to practice properly for a month, of course.