25’-25’ WCC Game #17: @ St. Mary’s

Tip-off: Wednesday, 8pm in the University Credit Union Pavillion
TV: CBSSN
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Kenpom: Broncos #35, Gaels #27

This Wednesday’s showdown between two of the WCC’s top dogs carries major implications for both the conference title race and the NCAA Tournament bubble. The Broncos currently sit in second place in the WCC with an identical 14–2 conference record. Santa Clara holds the tiebreaker over Saint Mary’s thanks to the Broncos’ January victory.

The Gaels will close the regular season at home against Santa Clara and Gonzaga — a significant advantage, given how dominant they’ve been on their home floor. They haven’t lost back-to-back home games since the 2020–21 COVID season. In fact, they’ve won 24 straight at home, with their last loss coming against Utah State in 2024. The last time Santa Clara won in Moraga was during that 2020–21 season; prior to that, the Broncos hadn’t beaten the Gaels on their home court since 2014. Saint Mary’s is a notoriously tough out in a hostile, high-stakes environment. Expect everything you can handle from Randy Bennett and his veteran group.

The Gaels enter this matchup riding a six-game winning streak since their last road loss to Gonzaga. At home, they’ve been dominant, cruising past San Diego (USD), San Francisco (USF), and Pepperdine by margins of 28, 24, and 27 points. On the back half of that stretch, however, they survived three road scares against Washington State, Seattle U, and Pacific.

Against Pacific, they were carried by a monster 32-point, 15-rebound performance from Marciulionis. He and Dent combined for 57 of the team’s 72 points — nearly 79% of the total offensive output. The Gaels were efficient and controlled the glass with 38 rebounds while committing just four turnovers, but received only nine points from the bench.

The Seattle U matchup followed a similar script — a grind-it-out battle between two top-25 defenses. With four minutes left, Saint Mary’s executed down the stretch. Marciulionis, Lewis, and McKeever led the way with 15, 22, and 15 points, respectively, accounting for 72% of the team’s scoring. Seattle’s aggressive defense forced 16 turnovers, but the Gaels still managed to secure 36 rebounds and enough half-court execution to close it out.

Most recently against Washington State, the Cougars pushed the tempo, resulting in a higher-scoring affair. The Gaels prevailed 83–??, with Marciulionis, Lewis, and Dent combining for 55 of the team’s 83 points (66%). All three shot 45% or better from the field, and Saint Mary’s knocked down 10 of 20 from three (50%). The bench also chipped in 16 valuable points.

Seattle disrupted the Gaels’ three-point shooting, holding them to 25%, but Saint Mary’s compensated at the free-throw line, going 21-for-27 (78%). Against Pacific, they shot 86% from the stripe and just 30% from three, yet still pulled away late for an 11-point win.

The numbers paint a consistent picture: Saint Mary’s is smart, poised, and physical on the glass. They are deliberate yet decisive in the half court, patient enough to milk the clock and disciplined enough to execute when they get their shot. Defensively, they force tough looks without gambling for turnovers. They rarely beat themselves and rank among the nation’s best free-throw shooting teams.

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On Senior Night, in their building where they’ve been elite, expect a sharper version of the Gaels than what we saw in Santa Clara. Still, they are beatable — and this Broncos team is capable.

For Santa Clara, the formula is clear. The Broncos must pressure the glass and eliminate second-chance opportunities. They need to stay out of foul trouble and run Saint Mary’s off the three-point line. The Gaels funnel most of their offense through their top three scorers, so Herb Sendek’s game plan has to force others to step up. Santa Clara can also look to speed the game up in transition, generating easier baskets before the Gaels’ half-court defense gets set. Attacking the paint and challenging their bigs will be critical. With the Broncos’ depth and physicality — especially with Darlan stepping up — they have the tools to make this a fight.

Wednesday night has all the makings of a classic: discipline versus pace, execution versus pressure, home-court dominance versus revenge motivation. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

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Obviously, how much - if at all - Graves can play is a big question mark… He played a lot last time, though it wasn’t one of his crazy output games.

They’re beatable, but its very hard to win at McKeon Pavilion.

I think we have more on the line - the other paths to the dance feel very fraught with uncertainty, though I think there is a way.

Does anyone smarter than me understand the variance between our Torvik ranking (#29, ahead of SMC) vs our NET Ranking 40?

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I’m not smarter than you, but it’s different weighting of certain variables in the algorithms. Since NET is a proprietary algorithm, no one except the NCAA would know for sure the answer. But I feel relatively confident that it’s how recency bias is weighted: more on Torvik, less on NET.

Since the Broncos have been really hot in conference play and dominant in the last 10 or so, Torvik’s methodology seems to give more credit to recent play. Whereas the NET (which has always tracked KenPom a little more closely since he helped design it) likely has a more even distribution of the weighting so that Loyola is still weighing SCU down.

But the most important piece: the NCAA claims that they don’t really use NET as a predictive tool like they do Torvik or KenPom. Rather, it’s a resume sorting tool that creates the Quads. So SCU’s NET ranking doesn’t (per the NCAA) really matter for SCU. Rather, SCU’s opponents’ NETs are important to sort the win and loss quality.

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WAB has garnered more attention, or so I’ve heard.

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Yep. Reportedly it’s the single most important metric. Which is pretty good for SCU as it helps paper over Loyola a bit.

Thank you sir!

While at some level my favorite list is whichever has SCU highest at the moment, I really do find the Torvik site to be really informative and interesting - presumably KenPom is as well, if one pays for it. The NET page is, as you mention, much more static and shadowy.

The hour grows late indeed - February 23rd - and the clock has not struck midnight on our chances. And a loss in Moraga doesn’t even end the story, either.

It’s been a very blessed year, even with those annoying blemishes, and I’m enjoying it all. A puncher’s chance in Moraga to punch a ticket to the Big Dance is a really happy thing.

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While it won’t generate the hype of Gonzaga in Leavey, this game is now more important than that one was.

Win, and SCU has an inside track to its first NCAA bid in 30 years and all but locks up the 2 seed with a real shot at claiming a share of the WCC Championship.

Lose, and SCU is basically locked into the 3 seed and will need to sweat a good amount during the WCC Tournament, likely needing to win 2 games to feel good on Selection Sunday.

I’ll be in Moraga and will be interested in what energy the home crowd brings. I don’t anticipate that SCU fans will be anywhere near as organized or forceful as on the Hilltop. But I do think that there will be a lot of SCU fans while many Gaels will save their energy for the Zags game on Saturday. Santa Clara was given a huge gift traveling to Moraga during “Gonzaga Week.” With that and an 8 pm tip, I think the UCU Pavilion home court advantage will be muted a bit more than usual.

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Line opened at SMC -5.5. Feels like it’s close to having Graves injury baked into it.

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Went by SCU today. Good news Graves practiced today. Bad news is he was clearly hobbled. So it’ll be a game time decision as to whether or not he plays

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If he had a true high ankle sprain (as someone previously reported on here) there would be no way he could practice today.

This is a promising update….even if he can’t go tomorrow.

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Thanks for all the homework and ratings info. Bennett might use the Gonzaga Few plan. Pound it inside, get Bukky, Graves?, Francis in foul trouble and use kickouts to 3 pt shooters, Lewis, Marauskus, Dent open looks.
We need to hope they have a night shooting like at Leavey and use our pressure to generate TO’s to get it done. Love we’re in this position!

If you want to fire yourself up for the game, go read the Gaels message board (i apologize in advance, the amount of ads are absurd, thank you again to our moderators). They are not happy to be lumped in the same group as the Broncos.

I suspsect they weren’t thrilled by Field of 68 ranking the SCU job as a better one than SMC. Randy has made SMC.

“It’s a better job than Saint Mary’s because they have better facilities and resources than Saint Mary’s. It’s a beautiful campus and the school is really supporting basketball. They also have history and Steve Nash.”

It would feel so good to get a win on the road tonight. They are going to have a significant advantage inside with Graves hobbled or out, but hopefully we can catch fire from the perimeter. Hammond is a real weapon with his floater. Hope it all comes together!

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While I consider their dreams of the new-look Pac-12 somewhat unrealistic in general, I do think a not insignificant factor is that (1) Randy Bennett will, axiomatically, not be there forever and (2) he may not be there in a year or two.

SMC’s continued success will rely on who takes over. I have no idea who the heir-apparent is, if anyone. That hire is truly critical, and any misstep may be hard to recover from.

Those who know their history may see shades of the end of Slip Madigan - seeking out neutral site games against big teams and so on may overextend Old Saint Marys, who has what I perceive to be an imperfect financial situation.

RB may be there for another decade. But if he exits stage left, you look at that facility and that University (or College!) and it isn’t so obvious that its a durable advantage.

Between Tom Meschery graduating and Ernie Kent showing up, they were very, very bad. It’s really be astounding to watch what they’ve built… but the Bronco in me says now is great time to start passing them up.

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I read all of the active WCC message boards with regularity. My favorite is the Pacific forum, as they seem to have a strong contingent of proud alums who enjoy the WCC and committed to their team through thick and thin. (The Portland forum used to have that, but the Porter years really took a lot of energy away).

My least favorite is the SMC forum. The ads are one thing, but they are even more ready than the Zags fans to belittle the other teams in the conference. I love a good rivalry, but I take some pride in the fact that the folks who post here don’t exhibit the same level of raw antagonism for other WCC schools that the SMC posters do. (Not to mention their one anti-vaccine poster who spouts off on politics with some regularity.) I, for one, relish beating both USF and SMC with that special rivalry energy. But it’s clear that SCU has a psychological hold on some of the SMC fans (or at least the online ones), leading them to refer to us all as “Froncos,” “Donks,” and “Prunies” (okay, that last one is pretty funny for how antiquated it is). They can call SCU grads whatever they want, and all is fair in a rivalry. It’s just funny that the fixation goes only one way.

Anyways, peruse the SMC forum at your own risk but don’t engage lest you lead them back here.

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“Prunies” made me chuckle. I would have had no idea what that reference meant if not for my dad always asking me “How are things in Prune Valley?” during the time that I lived in Santa Clara / San Jose from ‘92 thru ‘01.

If one looks quite closely on the ways of St. Joesph’s hall, you will see little embossed prunes (or I suppose, plums) on the wall detail in the hallways.

Nowadays, the closest connection I suppose is that several of our large donors made their fortunes turning those orchards in to tract homes and strip malls. Or the occasional Bronco student foray to the driving range at Pruneridge Golf Course.

Far be it for me to say, but my knock on the SMC board (beyond the ads which are miserable) is that there’s like four or five of them… limited useful discussion, more often just posts of links or one-off thoughts that generate no dialogue.

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It’s pretty interesting to look back and see our all time records against teams in the WCC. Next year, the only school we won’t have an all time winning record against is ironically Seattle. There is a potential world where we run the WCC post-Gonzaga.

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With Gonzaga’s departure, this is an opportune time for Santa Clara to be present in national level bubble discussions. We have a really likeable team in my opinion. They play with consistent effort and have great chemistry. I could see them winning some hearts and minds if they can get to that stage and make some noise.

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+1 to what everyone is saying. The online discourse on their message board does not carry over to the majority of Gaels I know. To be fair, that’s probably the case for most message boards, with the exception of WakeUpSwig, this is quite the community. :wink:

Appreciate the history lesson, I never knew about Prune Valley. That’s actually quite funny.

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The old newspaper stories refer to Santa Clara teams as the “Prunepickers!”

I’ll throw in some additional historical tidbits:

The Santa Clara Valley may have changed around SCU, but Santa Clara University has remained in the same exact physical location. That can’t be said for USF, SMC, Pepperdine, LMU or Pacific. USD, which hasn’t moved, is only 77 years old (about 100 short of Santa Clara).

UOP’s move to Stockton allowed Santa Clara’s high school division to move to their old location, the modern Bellarmine campus. So the ‘College’ referenced in College Park Station on CalTrain is College of the Pacific.

St. Mary’s began life in San Francisco, and near the original location is fun bar called St. Mary’s Pub, near both College and St. Mary’s street. Prior to Moraga, St. Mary’s was located in Oakland, and the confusingly named St. Mary’s College High School moved to its current Berkeley/Albany campus just one year before SMC moved to Moraga. The High School never made the move from Alameda to Contra Costa County.

Now, the fun fact:

Does anyone know where Santa Clara University very nearly did move?

Prior to the 1906 earthquake, the University/Jesuits purchased 650 acres in Los Altos upon which to build a ‘modern’ campus for Santa Clara. However, the intervening earthquake befouled the plans, which were eventually abandoned, having been complicated by the cost to build St. Josephs and O’Connor Halls. The area now is mostly the Los Altos Country Club, but the name lives on in the small neighborhood across Foothill Expressway called “Loyola Corners” and its Loyola Elementary School (how many secular schools have Loyola in the name?)!.

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